scomac wrote:I suppose the data would still be relevant provided that it covered a suitably long time period,
I don't think that it would. Companies change over time. The banks are a good example. Payout ratios have increased. They have moved from lending into brokerage, underwriting, mutual funds, and various other fee-based businesses. Thomson Reuters is another example having shifted from newspapers to electronic databases.
For companies with strong, stable earnings growth, historical data is extremely helpful if it covers a recession. I have been increasingly concerned about using historical data because the last recession was in the early 90s and we have seen 15 years of debt fueled growth. Additionally, there has been an incredible amount of yield chasing in dividend paying stocks since the dot.con bubble burst.
this brings us squarely back to the first issue; just how relevant is recent historical data?
Nonetheless, the best you can do is work with the data that you have. As you know, I've broken (temporarily, I hope) with the dividend-based investing approach that I've used for over 25 years because I thought that the risks that I saw in the financial system were disastrously high. I'm still mulling over the implications for dividend growth in an environment where we have no significant growth for years due to the flip side of deleveraging - savings and tighter credit.
JaydoubleU wrote:No offense, Yielder, but I think some of the data is inaccurate. For one thing, shouldn't the average yield of stocks be changing from quarter to quarter?
If you calculate them that way. I don't. I use an average of the annual highest and lowest yield after adjusting for outliers. The recent report doesn't reflect 2007 or 2008 because I'm still chewing on whether to include them because of the fairly extreme distortions occuring. As an example, MFC has a 52 week high/low yield range of 11.5% and 2.5% both of which are outside the historical range. So far, I've decided to exclude this data.
As for the rest of your comments, they're all spot on, more or less. I say in the report and the distribution email that "This data is the start point for diligent research and interpretation. To use it
mechanically without further research increases the risk of loss."
One further question. Why don't the lists include MBT, RCI.B, and SJR.B?
MBT because of the previous uncertainty around its becoming an income trust. It's dividend has been frozen for a number of years. Notwithstanding, it should probably be added. RCI.B has cut its dividend in 2000. It may be time to reconsider it. Up until 2003 SJR.B had no dividend to speak of and no dividend growth. When a dividend policy is initiated, I tend to wait about 5 years before adding it to the list. SJR.B will probably be added next report.
BTW, if you have questions about the report, you can always email me.
